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Ah, Britain, what have you done?

My hopes are shattered - the British referendum on whether to stay in the EU or leave it has happened, and too many people voted "leave". This makes June 23 a really sad day, and a lot of my friends over in the UK are sad, too. We're all wondering what will happen now... and I'm sure that it will not prove to be a smart move, economically or politically.

We're certainly living in interesting times. So in the future, I will have to import my beloved lemon curd from outside the EU. There will probably additional tax issues, and VAT-MOSS will not go away for the UK. Exporting things to Britain will be like exporting things to Switzerland, or the US. This feels weird, because the UK was always, always a place close to my heart, and felt like a second home, ever since I was there the first time (when I was just seven years old). So now the second home-of-my-heart... is outside the EU.

I'm really, really stunned by that decision to leave... and I hope its repercussions will not be too bad. For any of us.

Sigh.
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Heather on Freitag, 24. Juni 2016 15:03

To quote the late, great Brian Sewell, when told, "But it's what the people want."
"Well, the people are idiots."

It's been noted that the educated, the people who know there's a world out there, have all voted to Remain. My partner and I are on separate shifts so saw the news separately. First thing we did, independently, was text each other with "Wanna learn German?" But that presumes that when choosing from all the people in the world Germany would want to let us in. Perhaps Canada or Scotland would have us?

There was a lot of short-sighted gut voting going on. The government said, "If you vote to leave house prices will fall!" This may scare those in their 50s, but to the two generations below them, who have found that 'starters homes' are now £300k (E400k?) and the rent payments are far higher with a shoddier building, that's a reason to vote Leave. Never mind that house prices would fall due to a recession. (To paraphrase Mike Carney, governor of Bank of England, who's Canadian).

There's been a lot of "[EU citizens], coming here, taking our jobs." 1. The majority moved back - I've been through the statistics. 2. They are the doctors, nurses, teachers, etc etc, that the people saying that couldn't be bothered to train to be, working the hours they think are beneath them to work. In a lot of cases they're paying the taxes that keep the benefits payments coming. Exactly how did they "take our jobs...?"

Apparently we're still in until October. I know that my qualifications aren't immediately transferable and that's not enough time to top up. So as a household we're having a think. And a cry.

The EU was originally set up in the 1950s to stop the wars that were happening every 20 years. And now because there hasn't been one, that's been forgotten. (Trade was a useful afterthought, given that we were all nextdoor to each other and on speaking terms). But you can't buy a house, make two payments on the mortgage and say, "It's nice here, got it now, I'll stay here and stop paying." Can't have the benefits of something without being in it.

To quote the late, great Brian Sewell, when told, "But it's what the people want." "Well, the people are idiots." It's been noted that the educated, the people who know there's a world out there, have all voted to Remain. My partner and I are on separate shifts so saw the news separately. First thing we did, independently, was text each other with "Wanna learn German?" But that presumes that when choosing from all the people in the world Germany would want to let us in. Perhaps Canada or Scotland would have us? There was a lot of short-sighted gut voting going on. The government said, "If you vote to leave house prices will fall!" This may scare those in their 50s, but to the two generations below them, who have found that 'starters homes' are now £300k (E400k?) and the rent payments are far higher with a shoddier building, that's a reason to vote Leave. Never mind that house prices would fall due to a recession. (To paraphrase Mike Carney, governor of Bank of England, who's Canadian). There's been a lot of "[EU citizens], coming here, taking our jobs." 1. The majority moved back - I've been through the statistics. 2. They are the doctors, nurses, teachers, etc etc, that the people saying that couldn't be bothered to train to be, working the hours they think are beneath them to work. In a lot of cases they're paying the taxes that keep the benefits payments coming. Exactly how did they "take our jobs...?" Apparently we're still in until October. I know that my qualifications aren't immediately transferable and that's not enough time to top up. So as a household we're having a think. And a cry. The EU was originally set up in the 1950s to stop the wars that were happening every 20 years. And now because there hasn't been one, that's been forgotten. (Trade was a useful afterthought, given that we were all nextdoor to each other and on speaking terms). But you can't buy a house, make two payments on the mortgage and say, "It's nice here, got it now, I'll stay here and stop paying." Can't have the benefits of something without being in it.
Heather on Freitag, 24. Juni 2016 17:18

After comment I ought to clarify. The UK brought in university tuition fees in 1998 which made university unaffordable or offputting. Others didn't have the circumstances or inclination to go and instead did other things. By 'bothered' I do not mean these.

Instead I get regular rants from people who were academically able and supported to complete whatever education they wanted, but decided against it saying then and now that the world owes them a living and will pay up their 'rights' if they shout loud enough.

After comment I ought to clarify. The UK brought in university tuition fees in 1998 which made university unaffordable or offputting. Others didn't have the circumstances or inclination to go and instead did other things. By 'bothered' I do not mean these. Instead I get regular rants from people who were academically able and supported to complete whatever education they wanted, but decided against it saying then and now that the world owes them a living and will pay up their 'rights' if they shout loud enough.
Harma on Freitag, 24. Juni 2016 17:35

Now Heather (and every-one else from the UK) will be ordered to smuggle lemon curd to the Forum as a part of their conference fee. ;^D

Some idiot in the Netherlands (Wilders) is talking about a referendum for a Nexit. Globalization can't be stopped. It's better to have a say in what happens instead of staying out of the deciding process and being overrun by others.

Now Heather (and every-one else from the UK) will be ordered to smuggle lemon curd to the Forum as a part of their conference fee. ;^D Some idiot in the Netherlands (Wilders) is talking about a referendum for a Nexit. Globalization can't be stopped. It's better to have a say in what happens instead of staying out of the deciding process and being overrun by others.
Ell on Samstag, 25. Juni 2016 12:59

As a Brit who moved to Germany last year with my partner, I'm absolutely gutted. We have no real idea of what the situation will involve for us, but at the very least it will be complex visa applications. Possibly more than that.

I'm currently visiting the UK for the first time since moving and I'm honestly embarrassed to return to Germany (even though I voted Remain) and a little afraid. I know immigrants to the UK have been getting a lot of flak (I saw a woman sobbing about it in a coffee shop, it was just heart-breaking) and I do fear some anti-UK sentiment will spread across Europe. I can't really blame people, but the vote was so close I think it's fair to say that Leaving is NOT what Britain wanted.

We're a country divided for no good reason. I haven't heard a single Leave voter express an opinion backed by facts, and when faced with facts they've just dismissed them. It's hard to fight against the decades of racist rhetoric published by the newspapers.

Awful, awful stuff.

As a Brit who moved to Germany last year with my partner, I'm absolutely gutted. We have no real idea of what the situation will involve for us, but at the very least it will be complex visa applications. Possibly more than that. I'm currently visiting the UK for the first time since moving and I'm honestly embarrassed to return to Germany (even though I voted Remain) and a little afraid. I know immigrants to the UK have been getting a lot of flak (I saw a woman sobbing about it in a coffee shop, it was just heart-breaking) and I do fear some anti-UK sentiment will spread across Europe. I can't really blame people, but the vote was so close I think it's fair to say that Leaving is NOT what Britain wanted. We're a country divided for no good reason. I haven't heard a single Leave voter express an opinion backed by facts, and when faced with facts they've just dismissed them. It's hard to fight against the decades of racist rhetoric published by the newspapers. Awful, awful stuff.
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